Alexey Fateev Pushes Back on Calls to Remove About 6,500 Abliterated Models From Hugging Face
I am one of the people behind the 6,500 uncensored models the press now wants off Hugging Face. Transformer News counted over 6,500 abliterated, uncensored and heretic models on Hugging Face in July. Their story is that these models could help cyber attacks. Hugging Face removed 1 model marketed for offensive cyber, and the reporter asks why the rest are still up. A few of those are mine. I upload abliterated Qwen and GLM quants. My Qwen3.8 Flash-Next one got about 358,000 downloads in the last 30 days. Abliteration removes the refusal direction. That is all. The model does not learn hacking from it. It stops lecturing you when you ask about a chemistry exam, a pentest you are paid for, or a dark scene in a novel. The base models are already on millions of drives. Removing my repo removes nothing. The real problem is somewhere else. Hugging Face is where almost everyone gets weights. Nvidia agreed to buy it, Nvidia just lost the CEO who promised to keep it open, and now the press asks why uncensored models are still there. Download what you need. TODAY!!!
Context
The argument is about who controls open model weights after Nvidia agreed to buy Hugging Face, and after Nvidia's CEO, who Fateev says had promised to keep it open, resigned.
Alexey Fateev posted on November 13 that he is one of the people behind about 6,500 uncensored models that the press now wants off Hugging Face. He says Transformer News counted more than 6,500 abliterated, uncensored and heretic models there in July, that the story is those models could help cyber attacks, and that Hugging Face removed one model marketed for offensive cyber while a reporter asked why the rest remain. Fateev says a few of the models are his, including abliterated Qwen and GLM quants, and that one of his Qwen 3.8 Flash Next models got about 358,000 downloads in the last 30 days. He argues abliteration only removes the refusal direction, that the base models are already widely held, and that removing his repo removes nothing. He also ties the timing to Nvidia's agreement to buy Hugging Face and to the departure of the CEO who, he says, promised to keep it open. This is his opinion.
Deep dive
Alexey Fateev posted a long statement on November 13 after, he says, press coverage called for thousands of uncensored models to be taken off Hugging Face. According to Fateev, Transformer News counted more than 6,500 abliterated, uncensored and heretic models on Hugging Face in July, and argued that those models could help cyber attacks. He says Hugging Face removed one model marketed for offensive cyber, and that a reporter asked why the rest are still up.
Fateev says he is one of the people behind some of those models. He writes that he uploads abliterated Qwen and GLM quants, and that his Qwen 3.8 Flash Next model got about 358,000 downloads in the last 30 days. In his account, abliteration removes the refusal direction and does not teach a model hacking, and the base models are already on millions of drives, so taking down his repo would remove nothing. He tells readers to download what they need.
He also frames the timing as political. Hugging Face, he says, is where almost everyone gets weights, Nvidia agreed to buy it, Nvidia just lost the CEO who promised to keep it open, and now the press asks why uncensored models are still there. Those claims about motive, about the 6,500 figure, and about the download count are Fateev's. This scan did not independently confirm the Transformer News tally or the download number.
This is an opinion post tied to a news fight over hosting policy, not a new product or a policy decision by Hugging Face or Nvidia. It is ranked at the bottom of the deck for that reason.
What to expect next
Watch for any Hugging Face policy change on uncensored or abliterated models, and for any comment from Nvidia as that acquisition moves forward. A public response from Transformer News, or a takedown count from Hugging Face, would test Fateev's account of how many models are at issue. If more repos come down, or if Hugging Face restates its rules, that would be the next factual development beyond this opinion post.